Thursday 30 September 2010

Toshiba L300 Series Continuous Faulty Hard Disk Drive

"I have absolutely no doubt that something causes drives fitted in Toshiba L300 series laptops to fail almost out of the box."

Recently I have been keeping a record of the Toshiba L300 series laptops that have come through my hands for repair purposes. Over the last 6 months I have seen a total of 27 L300 series laptops, 25 of them having the same fault - a faulty hard disk drive - and the remaining 2 having basic issues such as broken screens or keyboards. This equates to an average of 4 laptops (of the same make and model series) per month having the same issue.

The drive supplied from the factory is a standard 120GB SATA drive manufactured by Toshiba Storage Co., so there's nothing unusual about that, and if a hard disk drive is faulty then you simply replace it right? This is what I had thought, but it seems to be a little trickier than that.

I have tried fitting every make of 160GB SATA drive that I can lay my hands on. Hitachi, Western Digital, Samsung, MDT and Seagate. All these drives failed again within 48 hours. I use 3 different branded enterprise-ready diagnostic testing software packages and all 3 fail the drive on READ, WRITE and SMART EXTENDED tests.

At first I thought it was the drives I had been using, so I changed brand. To rule out a faulty batch of drives (and a heavy-handed postman) I even changed supplier. I tried 4 different suppliers and 5 brands of drive in total. The MDT drive I expected to fail anyway - they are just refurbished drives from other manufacturers sold as new with a slightly less capacity - but for all these drives to fail from all these different suppliers did not make sense. I even checked that they from different batches and tried to mix old and new stock to give an accurate result.

I find it extremely rare that these drives would fail within a 48 hour period, and consistently produce the same result. Keep in mind that this is over a 6 month period too.

I considered the possibility that my diagnostic software wasn't compatible with the controller, or that there were other factors that could be affecting the test result. With this in mind I tried testing the drives BEFORE and AFTER in another machine with a known consistently accurate test result. Before the drives were fitted inside the laptops they were fine, and after they were re-tested 48 hours later they had failed. This now ruled out incompatible software running on the test Toshiba machine.

The drives were literally unusable in other machines and even as USB storage devices when housed in top-brand USB enclosures. They clicked, clunked and sometimes even power cycled for no apparent reason. I have absolutely no doubt that something causes drives fitted in Toshiba L300 series laptops to fail almost out of the box.

As a second experiment I purchased a brand new Toshiba Satellite L300 and gave it to a friend to use as any regular person would for exactly 30 days. I tested the drive immediately after opening the box and it passed all tests without even a sign of potential failure. After 1 month I re-tested the drive. The drive failed the SMART EXTENDED test, but passed the READ and WRITE tests. It did not click or power-cycle.

I'm not really sure what to conclude from this. It would appear that something (and I wouldn't even like to attempt to guess) causes drives to fail when being used in this model/series of laptop. This appears to affect all lines, including Satellite and Equium. To make matters worse I had also started looking at Toshiba Satellite 405D laptops and these are starting to show signs of the same thing. It's too early to say for certain, but I wanted to bring this into the public light and see if anybody responded with any comments on their own experience on these.

As of now I have stopped fitting new drives into any Toshiba L3xx and L4xx series laptops as I cannot deal with the amount of warranty returns and extra workload that this introduces. I would like to point out that Toshiba as a manufacturer are generally pretty reliable and will obviously resolve any issues that you have under warranty within the first year of purchase. I deal with several hundred laptops a month and no other make, model or series presents the problem for me.

5 comments:

  1. I've noticed the exact same thing. Certain of these damn L300 machines like to eat their way through hard drives. I thought it could be down to the design of the hard drive bay - the lid actually holds the drive in place with its own plastic which provides absolutely no protection from shocks or vibration. But now I'm thinking it's far more likely to be a motherboard issue - because this has recently happened to a machine that never leaves its desk.

    I've read others blame Vista for its disk performance settings. And more again suggest it's down to overheating. Neither of those seem feasible if you ask me. The drive is located on the opposite site to the fan and heatsink, next to the optical drive - which won't be producing any heat unless in use. And if Vista's performance settings were to blame, the same thing would be happing to all other L300 series machines. It does appear to be only a subset that are displaying this problem though.

    Personally I'd video the damn thing getting driven over 'by accident' and sell the film to one of those damn camcorder tv programs. Some of them will pay a couple of hundred dollars for videos like that.

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  2. I have been noticing myself and many others having issues with the hard drives in L640/L650 series Satellites. I own an L650 and the hard drive crashed less than one week after the warranty expired. There were some tell-tale signs that it was going bad even from early on (in retrospect), but as a computer novice I didn't pick up on them in time. Nevertheless, I have been finding I am not alone in having this problem.

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  3. Hi All
    Thanks a lot Liam for your post. I think you spent lots of time and money to try to investigate this issue. It is very appreciated. I am just dealing with my wife's laptop L300. When I bought that one HDD was formatted this way that only half of space was accessible. First I though that drive is faulty, so I bought new one. This arrangement has been working for another two years. Now I have got the same problem - when you try to format drive only 1/2 is accessible. I know this system has ability to scramble data on HDD. I am wonder if it is the issue. All help is welcome.
    Peter

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  4. Hi every1,
    I've had a L300 for, guessing by the bios date, 5yrs. Only now has it started having your afore mentioned power-cycle problem. Looking at replacing the hard drive, possibly considering a new machine, but would like to keep Vista as a program I use doesn't run on Windows 7. Any suggestion of a suitable replacement would be appreciated.

    OS Name Microsoft® Windows Vista™ Home Premium
    Version 6.0.6002 Service Pack 2 Build 6002
    Other OS Description Not Available
    OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation
    System Name
    System Manufacturer TOSHIBA
    System Model Satellite L300
    System Type X86-based PC
    Processor Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T6400 @ 2.00GHz, 2000 Mhz, 2 Core(s), 2 Logical Processor(s)
    BIOS Version/Date INSYDE 1.60, 23/12/2008
    SMBIOS Version 2.4
    Windows Directory C:\Windows
    System Directory C:\Windows\system32
    Boot Device \Device\HarddiskVolume2
    Locale Australia
    Hardware Abstraction Layer Version = "6.0.6002.18005"
    User Name
    Time Zone E. Australia Standard Time
    Installed Physical Memory (RAM) 4.00 GB
    Total Physical Memory 2.87 GB
    Available Physical Memory 1.20 GB
    Total Virtual Memory 4.78 GB
    Available Virtual Memory 2.76 GB
    Page File Space 2.00 GB
    Page File C:\pagefile.sys

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